I have to watch myself on the television tonight so I need to get things done early. That's a strange statement, so let me explain. Last winter and spring a reporter and camera crew from Oregon Public Broadcasting (OPB) followed me around at 5 different locations here and at the AMS conference in Texas. They were putting together a 1 hour program called FORECAST CLOUDY about television meteorologists, climate change, and how it goes together. I have not seen it yet, but it's finally going to be on at 9pm tonight. It will play at other times as well, so if you miss it, you can watch at a later time; check out the above link for details. Obviously we don't advertise for other TV stations, so we haven't mentioned it on-air here, but I thought you hard-core, rapid weather fans might be interested. Please don't turn the comments section into an argument about human-induced climate change...that would annoy me. Just watch and enjoy. I have to admit I'm a bit nervous to see how I'm portrayed. But at least I get to be on two different television stations within a 1 hour period.
Weatherwise we have a very chilly night on the way. As of 8pm the northerly gradient is still going strong, I see we have almost 6 millibars from Olympia to Eugene. That could play havoc with the low temperatures overnight if it doesn't weaken soon. We still have wind here at the station gusting close to 20 mph at times. I also notice that dewpoints continue to drop (as expected). I think they will be in the 20s tomorrow. By morning high pressure has settled in to the northeast and an easterly wind will have developed through the Gorge. That should spread out through the entire metro area by afternoon, giving us crystal-clear skies and gusts to 30 mph. A good 5-6 millibar Gorge gradient will increase the easterly gusts to 50 mph by midday at the west end of the Gorge. The easterly flow dies down over the weekend, but leaves us with sunshine and warmer temps.
The BIG picture shows continuing ridging in one form or another through the next 7-10 days...Mark Nelsen
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Some inside info from the media about the little critters that like to chew on the lines. Portland's BOEC (911 center) has a term for when traffic lights go off and start blinking. Its called a traffic squirrel. Not sure how it came to be, but it really exists. So the next time you come across a blinking traffic signal, just laugh and say traffic squirrel.
Posted by: TV Weather Producer | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 11:17 PM
There was one time where the squrrel caused the lights to flicker he liked the jolt so he went for more and blew the fuse for the town.
Posted by: Heatblizzard silverton Or near the gardens | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 11:11 PM
In Paradise California according to my parents squrrels caused power outages alot once it took half the town out Pardise had bad lines power went out for just about the slightest thing.
Posted by: Heatblizzard silverton Or near the gardens | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 11:10 PM
Anyone see the fireball in the sky around 7pm earlier this evening? KATU has several accounts from people around the area. Was probably spacejunk but the colors were pretty amazing!
Posted by: Stephen | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 11:10 PM
I didn't say you said it just that I've notice people think it could trend that way. Where is it at now? Are we still at moderate strenght? I like cold and snow but we can't prepare our house for it just yet so I hope we get small stuff to tie us over know what I mean? The chips before the burrito like at mexican resturants. Our electricity went off for about 10 seconds. Off complety then back on weird huh? Perhaps the squrriel wanted to chew on the lines.
Posted by: Heatblizzard silverton Or near the gardens | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 11:09 PM
As of 11:00 PM .....
TTD-DLS surface gradient has increased to -6.2 mb.
http://wxweb.meteostar.com/meteogram/link_pdiff.shtml?choice=KTTD+KDLS
It appears that my earlier thoughts are coming to fruition. It looks like a nice trend to continue to increase overnight perhaps peaking around -7.6 mb to -8.1 mb sometime tomorrow.
Posted by: Dr. Rob -Far S.E. Portland- | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 11:03 PM
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Posted by: Dr. Rob -Far S.E. Portland- | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 10:45 PM
Gameday Forecast for Oregon and Oregon State.
Sunny Highs in the 60's ! A great day for college football in the state of Oregon ! GO DUCKS !
Posted by: TV Weather Producer | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 10:44 PM
E winds have gone from probably 5mph to now 25-30mph.
Posted by: Dr. Rob -Far S.E. Portland- | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 09:10 PM
As of 8:00 PM ...
PDX-EUG surface gradient is still indicating a moderate northerly gradient around +4.5 mb.
http://wxweb.meteostar.com/meteogram/link_pdiff.shtml?choice=KPDX+KEUG
TTD-DLS surface gradient has increased to -5.4 mb.
http://wxweb.meteostar.com/meteogram/link_pdiff.shtml?choice=KTTD+KDLS
As higher pressure around 1030-1035 mb slowly slides east overnight coupled with lower pressure off to our south in response to a thermal trough off the southern Oregon Coast the TTD-DLS gradient should increase.
This map illustrates this nicely > http://www.kptv.com/wxmap/9431161/detail.html
This will be much more of a Gorge 'gap' wind overnight as compared to today which was more of a diurnal downslope type situation. As the air warmed it mixed to the surface throughout the day and once darkness falls that effect is minimized with the strongest winds remaining aloft.
This was not a typical pattern for winds today as the central and southern valleys experience northerly winds sustained 25-30+mph at times. You might of called this a near low scale downslope or valley event as the strongest winds appeared to of been west of the Gorge, and as I mentioned down the valley. I had gusts 30-40mph at times, but definitely not 32mph sustained winds as Eugene reported.
Looking at the Western Oregon Mesowest observations map the N to NNE winds are slowly subsiding > http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/mwmap.php?map=pqr
Looking at the Metro area/Gorge Mesowest observations map the strongest winds appear to be indeed in the Gorge and aloft in north Oregon Foothills/Cascades as seen here > http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/mwmap.php?map=portland
Posted by: Dr. Rob -Far S.E. Portland- | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 08:36 PM
hey i am on that show on pbs......... and i am living in kalispell montana. is there a way i can get a copy of it or something?
Posted by: offroadjosh(kila-7miles west of kalispell Montana) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 08:01 PM
For those who missed the PBS special it airs again 3-4 AM Sunday morning.
E winds really picking up here now.
Posted by: Professor Gregg, formerly known as Gregg-Troutdale | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 07:40 PM
heat, noone said it IS historic...we are saying the factors are there for this to become historic...it may not go that way but at the same time, it just might :)
Posted by: Luvrydog (from home in Beaverton) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 07:25 PM
both my sensor show 25.4 and 25.2. brrr! and its only 830
Posted by: offroadjosh(kila-7miles west of kalispell Montana) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 07:24 PM
About an hour or so ago we had our lights go off for about 15 seconds yes off completly. About that lanina why does people think it will go historical its just at moderate strenght so what if ocean indexes are breaking records its still only moderate. Lets cool it here.
Posted by: Heatblizzard silverton Or near the gardens | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 06:18 PM
The OPB special featuring Mark, Rod, Matt, and Bruce is now available online at www.opb.org
Posted by: Stephen | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 06:08 PM
Btw...I did make it to Crown Point too and measured the wind for about a minute. It was so weak though, it seems this was more of a downslope. With no cold/dense air east of the mountains and no low approaching, the wind didn't roar like I know it can!
In the minute I measured, I got a gust to 38.5
Posted by: Tyler in Vancouver | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 05:43 PM
Jacob - what are you trying to say abou the Christmas lights going up? As in we should do that early because we will be getting weather??? What a tease!
Sorry I missed you Mark, I'll see if I can't catch a rerun. Anyone who saw it, how did it go?
Posted by: Camas Mom | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 05:37 PM
Definitely appears to have a downslope signature to it. 35mph at TTD
Posted by: Derek-Somewhere here or there | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 04:15 PM
Southern Willamette Valley is getting some really strong winds for a couple hours. Eugene and Corvallis winds sustained in the 20s Gusts higher !
Posted by: TV Weather Producer | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 03:16 PM
I'm back from my hike/trip in the gorge. It was a beautiful day, sunny the whole time. The winds weren't too strong, and didn't really pick any up until I hit the Corbett exit on the way there.
On the way home, it was windy all the way to about SR 500/205 in Vancouver. Out here in Hazel Dell, the slightest breeze, temp is 59.
I will have some pics later.
Posted by: Tyler in Vancouver | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 03:14 PM
24 mph gust took down a 20 foot branch and put it on my deck. Oh Happy Day.
Posted by: TV Weather Producer | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 03:08 PM
could get as low as 12 tonight! on my way to school it hit 17. winter is near my avg low is 26 now:P
Posted by: offroadjosh(kila-7miles west of kalispell Montana) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 03:01 PM
Yes Wendy, that was one of the years, they actually had icebreakers running up the rivers to keep business moving as much as possible.
Posted by: Luvrydog (Tanasbourne (work)) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 02:45 PM
Was the winter of 49-50 the year that the Columbia froze over and people could walk from Longview to Rainier? My grandpa talks about it, but I've never asked him the year. Anyone have any idea?
Posted by: wendy-silverlake,wa | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 02:42 PM
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Posted by: jacob BPA | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 02:10 PM
Its 58 now much warmer then yester day at this time. So what is the strength of this lanina what is everyone excited about some say it may go historic why is that?
Posted by: Heatblizzard silverton Or near the gardens | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 01:53 PM
id be at the meeting if it wasnt for my damn wisdom teeth being pulled that day. so you guys have your fun, ill be having mine... :)
Posted by: timmy - scappoose | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 01:34 PM
Sweet. AMS meeting is Nov. 9th from 10am-12pm right? Oh, and at OMSI of course. I have been going for years and thought I was going to miss it this year, but I will be getting back to town just in time. Not that anyone cares, but I will be there and hopefully I will get to chat with Mark and ask him a ton of annoying questions. I remember last year, as soon as the meeting got over, Mark had person after person wanting to talk to him. Ah, the life of a celeb. Also, I missed the OPB special since I am out of town. Any way I can get a tape of it?
Posted by: Mback (In Sparta, Wisconsin For A Bit) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 01:21 PM
thank you
Posted by: Jeff -- Troutdale | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 01:10 PM
the winter weather meeting starts at 10am and run to around Noon.
Posted by: TV Weather producer | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 01:06 PM
First frost this morning! Awesome possum. True Indian summer coming right up! 'Can't wait to hear what the boys say on November 9th. I really believe that this could be "our year"!
Posted by: JohnD | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 12:53 PM
I know its been on the board before... but does someone know off the top of their head what day/time the winter weather meeting is?
Posted by: Jeff -- Troutdale | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 12:00 PM
I'm really looking forward to hearing the professionals outlook on this winter...should be entertaining to say the least!
Posted by: Luvrydog (Tanasbourne (work)) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 11:50 AM
Morning All,
No I'm not Mr. Taylor.
Mark, there is no need for the public to know who I am. Its for everyones safety. I'm like the CIA, FBI, NSA, and Bill O'Reilly. I'm lookin' out for you. Ha Ha Ha. I'll be at the winter weather meeting as will be most of us on here. Its going to be fun.
Posted by: TV Weather Producer | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 11:44 AM
From NWS website about it.
"January 1950 Snowstorms
January 1950 was a very cold month statewide, with freqent snowstorms. For the state as a whole, snow was the heaviest during this January than ever before since the beginning of weather record keeping, which began in 1890. For some areas, the heaviest one-day snowfall was reported during the first few days of the month, while for others the heaviest one-day snowfall occurred during the last few days. For most locations, the heaviest occurred during the period of January 9 through the 18th. Actually, there were three storms, but very little time separated them. Their net effect was a nearly continuous storm. On the 13th, snow was accompanied by high winds, creating widespread blowing and drifting of snow. Deep snow drifts closed all highways west of the Cascades and through the Columbia River Gorge. A very severe sleet storm began around noon on the 18th. Within hours sleet piled up to depths of 4 to 5 inches in northwestern Oregon. During the night of the 18th, the sleet turned to freezing rain, and created much havoc on highways, trees, and power lines. Hundreds of motorists were stranded in the Columbia River Gorge. The stranded motorists had to be rescued by train, though even all rail traffic had considerable difficulty and many delays in getting through the Gorge. Freezing rain downed many trees and power lines, creating widespread power outages across northwestern Oregon. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage occurred.
Western Oregon January 1950 Snowfall Totals Western Oregon Location January Total Snowfall
Albany 54.7 inches
Astoria Agricultural Station 39.4 inches
Bandon 6.0 inches
Brookings 6.0 inches
Clatskanie 68.5 inches
Corvallis 52.0 inches
Cottage Grove dam 121.0 inches
Detroit dam 122.0 inches
Estacada 31.0 inches
Eugene 36.0 inches
Falls City 78.0 inches
Forest Grove 59.0 inches
Gold Beach 3.0 inches
Hillsboro 42.4 inches
Leaburg 50.0 inches
Marion Forks 196.0 inches
McMinnville 47.0 inches
Medford 20.1 inches
Molalla 30.0 inches
Newport 6.2 inches
North Bend 2.5 inches
Oregon City 34.0 inches
Otis 20.0 inches
Portland Airport 41.0 inches
Portland downtown 32.9 inches
Powers 18.1 inches
Prospect 87.5 inches
Reedsport 5.0 inches
Riddle 42.9 inches
Roseburg 28.0 inches
Salem 32.8 inches
Santiam Pass 128.5 inches
Sexton Summit 73.9 inches
Three Links 96.0 inches
Tillamook 18.9 inches
Timberline Lodge 224 inches
Troutdale 36.7 inches
Eastern Oregon January 1950 Snowfall Totals Eastern Oregon Location January Total Snowfall
Antelope 40.0 inches
Baker City 24.4 inches
Bend 56.5 inches
Burns 31.9 inches
Cascade Locks 92.5 inches
Condon 43.1 inches
Crater Lake 136.0 inches
Dufur 18.0 inches
Enterprise 30.8 inches
Fossil 49.3 inches
Fremont 49.2 inches
Granite 80.0 inches
Grizzly 42.5 inches
Hart Mountain Wildlife Refuge 25.5 inches
Heppner 36.5 inches
Hood River 93.8 inches
Klamath Falls 56.5 inches
Klamath Falls airport 38.1 inches
La Grande 42.0 inches
Madras 28.0 inches
Meacham 41.8 inches
Mitchell 25.8 inches
Moro 54.0 inches
Ochoco Ranger Station 67.7 inches
Odell Lake East 134.0 inches
Ontario 17.0 inches
Parkdale 138.5 inches
Pendleton 41.6 inches
Prineville 24.0 inches
Redmond 36.0 inches
Redmond airport 28.8 inches
Rome 8.1 inches
The Dalles 76.0 inches
Umatilla 24.8 inches
Union 24.8 inches
Unity 19.0 inches
Wickiup dam near Sunriver 68.3 inches "
Posted by: Derek-Somewhere here or there | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 11:24 AM
Got down to 26 degrees last night in Ellensburg, Wa
Posted by: Andrew---Ellensburg, Wa and Portrland, Or | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 11:23 AM
Derek...what were our stats for that year?
Posted by: Luvrydog (Tanasbourne (work)) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 10:47 AM
Hmmmm, I'm noticing the GFS brings us some rain in the next 7 days...even on halloween. That's something new...Looks like a couple fronts (tail-ends) drag over the area.
Mark, you're just a sucker for playin games...TV, you're not Mr. Taylor are you :)?
Posted by: Luvrydog (Tanasbourne (work)) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 10:46 AM
"What was the winter of 1949 like?
Posted by: Ben
"
All of our wildest dreams come true.
Posted by: Derek-Somewhere here or there | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 10:39 AM
I know TV WEATHER PRODUCER...he's not ON T.V. and has never been on T.V. But his identity shall remain secret I guess.
Maybe he can "come out" (weather-wise) at the Winter Weather Meeting?
Posted by: Mark Nelsen | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 10:32 AM
um
Steve and TV Producer
are both high ROLLERS
and Roll Together
Enjoy our nice weather now and get you yard work and CHRISTMAS LIGHTS UP
:)
Posted by: jacob BPA | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 10:09 AM
Hey TV Producer, Are you APRIL THOMAS?
Posted by: Mom to Boys | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 10:09 AM
So... When I left this morning I was showing 36 degrees @ 6:15am leaving the house. in Walnut Grove. I was surprised yet not surprised to see 44 degrees on my car's thermo @ the Alberta/Swan Island ramp.
Small note on the T.V. special on Channel 10 last night. I thought it was great but I am a little dissapointed about it. I was very dissapointed how the show presented global warming and that it is "fact" that humans are warming the planet but there are fringe cooks like George Taylor who think that humans aren't the main reason for global warming.
I think it is a little bit of both... A little bit of human causation and a little bit of nautral causation causing the warming. I thought the solar radiation charts and relation to global temprature was especially interesting. I find it especially interesting that it appears half to possibly a majority of state climatologist's don't believe that humans are the main direct cause of global warming.
In a nutshell the show could have been a little more impartial and not made the few (which I believe it's a bit more than a few) that don't believe humans are directly related to global warming sound like the fringe cooks.
Posted by: Ryan (Swan Island) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 09:02 AM
What was the winter of 1949 like?
Posted by: Ben | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 08:40 AM
Good morning all!
Don't let that TV Weather Producer fool you. He is a BIG TIME HIGH ROLLER. :-) The suspense grows.
P.S. Woke up to find the entire neighborhood white with frost. Got down to 33.1 here at my place in The Couv. Checking PDX records it looks like Oct 21st is the average first date to see 36 degrees, then 32 on Nov 8th, so we are right about average. The wind just played games with some of our low temps last night (by as much as 10 degrees). All depended on where you were located.
SP
Posted by: Steve Pierce (Vancouver) | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 08:37 AM
You must have had some sort of wind overnight Tyler. It died off here around midnight and I bottomed out at 28.7
Posted by: Jesse-Orchards | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 08:31 AM
Frosty this AM, a little warmer than yesterday morning, but much more frost! I think its because no fog formed. Down to about 36.
Headed off to the gorge now. I will give a report on winds (or lack thereof) this afternoon.
Posted by: Tyler in Vancouver | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 08:21 AM
I woke up to very frosty roofs and cars this morning out here in Troutdale... First frost of the season here... I was expecting to be like 40 with an east wind blowing but no sign of any breeze yet.
Posted by: Jeff -- Troutdale | Friday, October 26, 2007 at 08:15 AM